The Terminator Files Forum

Okay so this keeps bothering me, I jsut haven't had time to make a threead about it.

During the assault the "VLA" [what ever that stands for, Vertical Laser Array?, the novel doesn't explain it] site, we see this bunker-buster missile come flying in...



...and this lone Ground HK Killer starts to fire at it with conventional ammunition...



...knocking off a fin, but it's guidance computer adjusts for this loss which is what they're suposed to do. Then it blows a big hole in the ground...



...for the Resistance to dive into, and the shockwave puts a lot of dust on one AA Tank that turns around toward the explosion...



...then we see another AA Tank fire...



...and sucessfully shoot down an A-10...







...before becoming scrap itself offscreen, as Connor and Olsen's helicopters land after following the canyon and popping out on to the base.

This tank appears to be based off of James Cameron's designs only that is missing the grappling arms for moving debris out of the way, and lacky a secondary set of tracks to carry more troops and ammo or to simply house the more power plasma weaponry they will have later on. And after all that, it has a Sentry turret...







...stuck on it's head for quad, or 8, cannon firing. Does anyone have any pictures that of these two machines that offer a clearer view of them?

Please Note: I tried to take the best pictures i could, and remember you can click on them int he forums to pop-up another window to make them bigger.

The initials stand for Very Large Array.

Lol, and now that I look at it, all the dishes in that array are pointing in random directions, defeating the purpose of a Very Large Array.

Indeed. I figure it's been unused since JD*, seeing as Skynet is more interested in scouring the Earth more than searching the heavens.

But who or what set them all at different directions is left to be wondered.


*Except for the underground area, naturally.

I don't quite get what you're asking Crimson . Did you just want clearer images here, or is there something you don't understand?

As for the 'AA Tank', do we know they're a variant of the Tank HK at all, or could they just be like the later Skynet Sentry?

They're tanks and I believe we had more of them in deleted scenes. Remember the tred over the skull in the desert shot from the teaser trailer?

Also, later on in the shot you can definitely see a tank move around shooting in the background. Turrets don't move around. In those missle pov shots you can clear see the treds on the tanks.

Where are talking about? After Connor lands and Olsen says that "this is a quick in-and-out." I didn't notice it.

Yes, if anyone has clearer pictures, I would like to check 'em out. Or could let me know if there are any pictures of these two particular vehicles in the Art of Salvation book? Or the Blu-Ray version of Terminator: Salvation.

No pictures of the Tank HK in either book, although the 'Art...' does mention ground-based tank designs briefly. There is also one small storyboard image of the sentry on page 203, but it's nothing to write home about.

That's not the Ground Hunter-Killer tank. Those threads do belong to some terraforming vehicle that runs over a church (http://www.hopeofthefuture.net/deleteds ... del19.html). Marcus is in the church when it starts to terraform it so he has to run from it.

Ground Hunter-Killer artwork from the Terminator Salvation game:
http://www.mtv.com/movies/photos/t/term ... tion_2.jpg
http://www.terminatorfiles.com/media/pi ... er-002.jpg

Actually, the site is supposedly a 3rd site of Skynet Radar bases, under the name of "Capistrano." The other two were taken down by the Resistance with losses, but nowhere near the total lose of everyone but two A-10 pilots and John Connor.

See neither one of those pictures are of what we saw in the movie. It seems so strange for them take the time to create, texture, wunwrap, and animate a 3D model and have it shoot down humans, yet they don't advertise it. It seems very strange.

Even in the novel, there's no mention of a Ground Hunter Killer, only a lone T-600 that clips the incoming missile, then is torn in half, crushed by Connor's chooper and shot in the head, but was not put out of commision and reroutes power to itself and then attacks John Connor and is finally defeated by M60 machine gun fire. Now that's one hard to kill T-600!

Still, only one T-600 to protect the whole complex, and an unarmed, or at least ammunition-less, T-1? The Resistance should be smarter than that.

This is NOT from the same vehicle. Sorry. And the location is completely different. It's outside, during the day... in the desert! Treads are also different as well. Completely different locations and shots.

And let's not quote a game and early artwork here. Especially when that early artwork is for the harvester, not the tank. And the video game features an early harvester design to, which is not the movie design.


To the person who can't find the moving HK tank... it's hard to notice, but you see it move right after the bomb raid from the A-10's. It's in the right hand corner.

Oh my god, there are 3 of these tanks guarding the VLA! There's the one that shoots at the missile, then gets hit with the blast wave but still shoots are the same one. With another to it's right in the frame (can be seen in my pictures above) and the when the A-10 flys over to the right a THIRD anti-air tank fires and sucessfully shoots down a different A-10 then the camera pans back the left and you see the "middle" AA Tank fire at the 3rd A-10 as the 2nd kamikaze A-10 flies into the missile-clipping AA Tank, and then to Connor's troops land and it pans back to see Connor land atop the lone T-600.

Here's a quick little video of this sequence:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eT9k7mGz ... NWQ_gAZcMo

Shit son, good eye! This little sequence may just be McG's best directorial moment! As I had never noticed that when the blastwave hit, it was the same camera position when the T-600 flops over toward the camera then the A-10s fly over and whatnot!

All of the Anti-Air Tanks do not move however, they simply stay there to be stationary targets for the Resistance air cover though.

Yes! it is definitely an HK tank. Notice the four treads:

Where'd that shot come from? It looks like an early rendering pass.