The Terminator Files Forum

Ok Just got done watch the sarah connor chronicles I watched the whole first season when it came out just rehashed it recently watched every episode...

First off I felt a connection between weaver kept saying she wants her company to lead the world in the next century seemed an odd thing for the mother of cybernet to say... i had a feeling she wasnt skynet but obviously a cold hard bitch.

anyways second point when he mentioned danny dyson... hes probably the same age or older than john conner. because he was like 8 yrs old add 8 years time travel hes 16 or so same age as john. so when he mentioned him at the end yes i beleive he was missing working with skynet devoloping the aircraft that crashed threw the window at the end also had to do with weaver destroying the airconditioning facility wich also had to do with the tracking chip inside of sarahs breast and also the attemped assasination of the little girl with wich out john henry would have turned into a rutheless killing machine instead of a machine with morals.

third and infact my most interesting and exciting suspicion/theory that Ive had since when cameron was facing herself human self the in the future is.... JOHN CONNOR DIED. in the future. cameron was his number right hand machine. he had a contingency plan with her if anything happened to him.... of course this plan was likely made shortly before he died... my guess is that he was negotiationg with the machines that did not want war... the other machines felt this was a super high threat thus johns contigency plan with cameron... but i think he did die... thats why u never see him in the future. some freak accident then cameron came back as acting leader of the resistence shes very special obviously she had morals just like john henry i knew as soon as henry said theres another out there like me that he was talking about summer and i instantly thought well maybe john henry isnt the key its really cameron that needs to be developed... and with the story line/time line she was devoloping those morals but in the end it was a combination of the two camer/johnhenry.

so john dies..... weaver finds out. cameron and weaver collaborate to get john back into the future with the new alliance/machines with morals... ok im not a writer im not good with grammar and this is probably ill contrived and poorly written still if anyone has any input or anything im so excited id love to hear what u think.

oh and last note it all makes sense.. right? why would john connor be so special... well exactly what i wrote above he had to die in the future to time travel to the future.... ane become the leader of the resistence with his knowledge and sources.

Sherman and Ellison are responsible for John Henry valuing human life, primarily Ellison. John Henry didn't even meet Savannah until the last few episodes.


Future John has only been seen for a few seconds in T2 and T3, ignoring T4 which is in the future. The first film kind of started the trend of not showing future John, but just talking about him as if he were some living god.

I think it was a (good) creative decision not to show Future John, and has nothing to do with him being dead.

I agree. I can understand why certain viewers came to the conclusion that Connor was dead, but really if you really give it some thought it seems pretty clear that he wasn't. For one thing, HickstyleZ, you're right that Cam seemed to be his right hand machine, the middle man between him and the rest of the resistance (to the chagrin of many). This is one of the reasons we never see him: to drive the point that Connor's reliance on his cyborg body guard(s), and likely paranoia, has caused him to cut off nearly all direct contact between himself and the rest of the resistance. He's inaccessible, even to his closest followers.

We do know he was still alive when Cameron brought Derek to meet him in the TDE room, which also means it was Connor himself who initiated this campaign of sending his assets into the past (including eventually Cameron herself). There was also nothing to suggest that it was Cam, rather than John, who was trying to forge an alliance with the other machines. It was obvious he was open to the idea and was already capturing and reprogramming them for use in his own camps. It seems logical to me that the next step would be for him to make an offer of allegiance to a sentient T1000 that would be able to join his cause of it's own volition (rather than through simple reprogramming).

It's likely Cameron may have influenced this decision but nowhere did I see any implication that he was dead and she was acting on her own. Since the circumstances regarding Cameron's being sent back in time are left ambiguous, it's possible he may have died at some point after his failed attempt at a machine alliance, and that she went back on her own to try to re-establish it. That's purely speculation, however. I definitely think he was very much alive during the events we see over the course of the show.