The Terminator Files Forum

I love the future war scenes in "Dungeons and Dragons." We get out first look at SCC's future and the Resistance's struggle. I also like when Catherine Weaver changes into a hooker and kills Mr. Nelson, that manager at Serrano Point. Probably one of the most unique kills I have every seen in fiction.

Believe it or not, that kind of kill has been done before. I remember a Mossad agent in 'Munich' being killed by someone posing as a prostitute. Of course, there were no liquid-metal shapeshifters in 'Munich', so the exact method used to achieve the kill was undoubtedly different.

This was a great scene, but for me, what made it powerful actually happens later when Derek and John are in the truck at the end of the story: Derek tells John that Bedell died saving John Connor! It was really quite moving.

---JET_Fusion

Real life is often far more twisted and surreal than what movie and TV writers can come up with. Intelligence organizations use prostitutes and other honey traps a lot, Mossad and KGB have history in this approach.

In actual history Israels former army chief of staff, former prime minister and current defense minister Ehud Barak was in drag killing terrorists. That is also on Munich. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Spring_of_Youth



That scene where it's revealed is indeed quite powerful and it's where lying is revealed. Derek's speech to cadets is also fine scene. Episode is one my favorites as it has plenty of action and good story line. Only flaw it has is basic flaw of second season, lack of continuing story, just another expendable terminator episode.

[quote="domokun"... just another expendable terminator episode.[/quote]

While this is true, I do give this episode more continuity. I think this is a turning point for John in that the concept of people, good people, die for him; they believe in his cause and they follow his lead even though it leads them to their death. Until this point, John viewed this concept as more about his leadership and he always distanced himself from this notion by saying he's not a leader. At this point in time, he's right! By the end of this episode, the last conversation with Derek, John has a real sense of what is to happen in the future.

---JET_Fusion

If its acceptable- I have a few identified scenes from T:SCC Season 2. I find them very interesting...

A real good one for me is the "Goodbye to all that" episode where John and Derek go to military school to find the third Martin Bedell a T888 is after. In this episode Sarah and the 2nd young Martin Bedell is reading "The Wizard of Oz" story while the T888 is actually close to where John, Martin, and Derek are though the dark military camp woods. I like where the T88 is blown apart and melted by John and Derek's weapons while young Martin reads about the melting which.

There's also the one where Cameron makes friends with a library assistant. The one where she finds someone named Martin Stark from the the 1920's. She learned through her observant monitor calculations that Stark was a T888 who traveled back in time and build that large palace. The best part is when Camerons cyborg footsteps- the sound they make hitting the floor. Then, she finds Starks and kicks his T888 jitterbug **** anddisconnecting his CPU unit.

Can't forget the episode Cameron busting Sarah out of prison is obvoiusly a personal favorite. It honors the first TERMINATOR movie w/ Arnold Shwarzenegger very well with Cameron w/ .12 gauge automatic and half of her face only showing. I'm actually watching the DVD "T:TSCC Season 2" its awesome!

Any time theres a fight between two Terminators is always kick ass and fun to watch! On either second or first season.

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I liked almost every scene that had a terminator in it (lame comment, I know). But really, just watching those things trying to function within the human world is bloody fantastic. I was especially fond of the scenes where Weaver was trying to appropriately interact with the child. I also liked the scene where Cameron came out of the car explosion and the scene where it tried to fix it's arm.

That scene gave me chills when I first saw it on Fox.com. Derek's face was intense and his eyes were very piercing. I haven't all of the show yet, I've only watched up to Self-Made Man [which I'm about to watch again as I've rewatched everything before it].

The first scene in the pilot is great, but I wish we could've seen that Terminator actor in a later episode or maybe even, just use him as a Terminator in the "future past" you know? Certainly Sarah's dream Terminator was more heavily armed than any of the show's as of yet. He had a pump action shotgun, dual HK53A3 [a 5.56mm - M16 round version of the 9mm MP5], and a .50 cal Desert Eagle "hand cannon" pistol. Although looking at the entrance wound on John Connor, Sarah may have dreamed it as the .45 caliber Desert Eagle, because the .50 cal would have made a bigger impact.

So far my favorite though, is when Derek and John see the young Reese boys in the park I like how Derek let's his ice cream bar melt to the ground while he watches them all.

There were so many amazing moments on this show that it's hard to pick just one favorite scene. I guess, gun to my head, I'd go with the opening sequence in Samson & Delilah, if for no reason other than I've probably watched it a hundred times over by now. There's something that's just awesome about watching Cam reactivate, assess her damage, and stalk toward the house with that determined look on her face, coupled with a great song by Shirley Manson. Loved the scene, loved the episode.

Yeah that was cool, but it just seemed like they phoned in the dialouge, and there wasn't enough of it. The director of they particular episode had a more "artsy" style then we were used to at that point.

I don't agree with the phoned in dialouge comment. There's a lot of stuff going on in this storyline. I think the change in dialog delivery is more inline with how one might view the events if one were living through them---it adds to the drama. I'm still amazed by Shirley Manson's music professionalism. That version of the song with her vocals is half of the reason this storyline is great. When you see her in the extras, how she's just casually standing at the microphone, making a few notes here and there, none of the visuals convey the spot-on singing performance she's in. It just shows that she's a top tier, master musician.

---JET_Fusion

I've never heard of her other than just that song.